XT send email from an Apple mail account

Michel Angelo michel_angelo at me.com
Sun Apr 5 05:52:32 EDT 2020


Hello to all. On 30 mars 2020 at 21:06, Brian Williams <brwill at me.com <mailto:brwill at me.com>> has written :

> Up until now, I have been using an email account associated with my Internet Service Provider from which to send messages from XTension. I am hoping to change XTension’s email settings to an unused (active) Apple account that I have. I can send from this account with Mail on my Mac (not my XT Mac), but am failing at getting XT to send from that account.

I had the same issue as you do a couple of years ago when setting email privilege to CCC (backup) and to DriveDX (checking drives). I failed using my mac.com <http://mac.com/> or me.com <http://me.com/> addresses and instead resorted to using my ISP’s supplied mail address. I recently did the same on xTension and added another address: an exchange address (Microsoft) this time. 

> In XT preferences, I have my settings as smtp.mail.me.com <http://smtp.mail.me.com/>, using SSL, and encounter Error 28 when attempting to Send Test Email. Apple web sites suggest that I need to specify Port 587, but XT doesn’t seem to have an entry point for that.

> What am I missing? 

Someone on the mac-L list seems to have found the « Why ». It would appear the managers of the mac.com <http://mac.com/> addresses may be so obsessed with security (for good reasons, no doubt), and goofing from time to time (Free.fr <http://free.fr/> does similar mistakes), with their prevention against mac.com <http://mac.com/> becoming a spam relay (amont other uglies). All in all, mac.com <http://mac.com/> addresses seem very difficult to implement in other situation than plain vanilla mail clients, google clients and the like. Further, the mac.com <http://mac.com/> server-side spam filter (the one I cannot rule from the client side) wants to direct all mail received from such robots (xTension is a robot) directly to your spam folder, even in the situations where, as I have done for SpamSieve) you have de-activated the Mail spam filter. All of this may be wrong, but seems quite believable to me. 

Hence my advice #1 to you: try to use an email address provided by an ISP which is not so obsessed with security. Try to avoid mac.com <http://mac.com/> for this service. That is not all: volume matters.  

As a side note, I use both my ISP and Exchange provided mail addresses to send to me automated messages from xTension when things go wrong to horribly wrong (which they often do to me, due to my poor applescript skills). I have found that upon a serious mistake of mine where  xTension will instruct the Exchange mail server to throw out dozens of consecutive email messages, Exchange complies … reluctantly (complies later, maybe never complies, I am not sure). 

So, my advice #2 to you is: To be on the safe side, try not to exceed 20 messages a day. Otherwise, you may risk being filtered out of existence by the email provider. 

Just my 2c.  

— 
Michel Angelo
<michel_angelo at me.com <mailto:michel_angelo at me.com>>



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