Is this a dead subject?
George Handley
ghandley at kc.rr.com
Fri Oct 6 15:58:28 EDT 2017
Shawn,
> " I’ll never get rid of XTension as the backend brains because it’s so vastly superior to any of the hub systems out there."
XTension is the finest quality electronic "erector set" I could ever hope for. While the novelty of voice recognition may have been partially cracked by the Google and Amazon people, it will never replace XTension.
Further, even Apple' Home kit is a joke in my opinion and cannot and will not ever do what XTension could do 14 years ago.
It's all in the name of an agreed-upon Industry set of standards that no one will ever agree to as everyone believes it would water down the sales of their product over others.
I sure understand your interest in this voice recognition subject, but unless James gets a bit level control of it, we can't expect XTension to do anything with it.
At least, that's what I've concluded. If you find out otherwise please let us know.
Best wishes,
George
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Shawn Ostermann <shawnostermann at mac.com> wrote:
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> I’ve been moving down a different path in thinking about voice recognition. I’ll never get rid of XTension as the backend brains because it’s so vastly superior to any of the hub systems out there. However, I also use a Philips hue hub for a dozen lights and a Vera hub for most of my zwave stuff. Both of them under the control of XTension.
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> What _I_ really want is to get my Google Home to listen to me and tell XTension what to do. Especially now that the Google Home Mini is only $50, I could afford to have a bunch of them in the house. Right now, the Philips stuff is built in, but that only gives me control of a trivial part of my house ecosystem (and it keeps losing connectivity). I played briefly with ha-bridge (https://github.com/bwssytems/ha-bridge) which would let me control the Vera too from Google Home, but that would be INSTEAD of the Philips. I was hoping to teach ha-bridge to control XTension and then have XTension control everything else, but I ran out of cycles.
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> Is anybody else playing with Google Home integration? That seems a better interface than the Amazon system, but the Apple version may end up being better still, so I’ve been hesitant to devote a lot of energy to one or the other. What are the cool kids doing?
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> Shawn
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>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 4:33 AM, George Handley <12508handwork at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Jerry,
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>> I thought I would try to start a new thread on speech recognition, but I didn't get too far.
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>> James said:
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>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 7:27 AM, James Sentman <james at sentman.com> wrote:
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>>> The Voice Recognition that is built into MacOS is really excellent now. I can integrate it with the app in a way that works at least as well as an integration with alexa would and do it without having to have a working internet connection and a full cloud system to back it up. Both ours and theirs since Amazon has no provisions to do anything locally all your systems must be in a static IP cloud based system too so we would need an XTension cloud to bounce the commands through.
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>>> It’s a non-trivial amount of work and I’m not sure how we would get the sound data back to the computer, blue tooth microphone? I’ll move it up my list of things to experiment with in my spare time ;) But no promises.
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>>> Thanks,
>>> James
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>> You were the only one who chimed in. I guess this means there just hasn't been any advancement in this technology for years though Siri and Alexis and the others sure make you think it has.
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>> I spent an hour on the net searching it and short of some $5000 to $10,000 products primarily of software used in medicine and law, there doesn't appear to be any reasonably priced hardware that is the missing link.
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>> I did find one cheap toy on eBay which looked promising, but it will only hold 15 commands. I don't know whether several could be ganged together or not. The price was right @ $21 bucks. (Link below) I didn't pursue it much further because James is convinced this is a "non-trivial" project and not to be hopeful that it is possible, but it occurs to me that this should've been a done deal sometime ago by somebody, someplace... Technology wise.
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>> Simply put, I need a black box with microphone (Not a headset) that can decipher my own pre-composed sentences and that is ideally connected to XTension through a WizNet board to my ethernet intranet. You can whip one of these out for me can't you? :-)
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>> Seriously, the eBay Chinese toy looks interesting. They only have seven left. The seller does have a number of good ratings so whether they'll make anymore or not I don't know. This may be a dead-end product for them because it may not work. Perhaps someone else on the List has had experience with this company?
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>> It uses an Arduino board
>> and I know someone who can slap this together for me I think, but I'm wondering what else is wrong with this whole idea in the first place.
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>> Hopefully this post will generate some thought.
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>> Thanks,
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>> George
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>> https://m.ebay.com/itm/Geeetech-Voice-Recognition-Module-with-microphone-Jumper-cables-for-Arduino-/271818719788?epid=1239613468&hash=item3f49a8822c%3Ag%3AQCAAAOxy2CZTWxeI&_trkparms=pageci%253A7ff11cce-a736-11e7-a442-74dbd180ea0e%257Cparentrq%253Adba8a9da15e0a861cf9fd66afffec58f%257Ciid%253A12
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