electrical as a source of X10 issues

[George Handley]

Hello Michael, and I hope you're having a world class day!

I really appreciate hearing your take on this. You're correct! Anything and everything I've done in the last four years or concluded as a source of trouble is now officially out the window thus requiring a total new re-examination. I look forward to it!

BTW, I do not use any RR501 wireless transceivers. I do use one W800 located in the center of our home, and the Palm Pads (Which we almost use exclusively) work great not only all over the house at both levels, but outside at the corners of our property.

But, what is your take on Warren's frequency concern?

Thanks,

George


On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Michael <michael at shed.com> wrote:

> On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:36 AM, George Handley <ghandley at kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> As I've stated recently several times, I need brute force time to see what, if anything, this has corrected. I can say, that not being able to hook up a Leviton PLC whole house filter without causing all sorts of X10 problems is just WRONG, and has been a real red flag for me since we installed the first filter with the same results. Consequently, I sure wish Michael or James pipes up on this exact subject so everyone will know.
> 
> Hello George,
> 
> James is unavailable for a while, and I'm not worth shooting.
> 
> But if I understand the thread so far, the discovery of your wiring problems is consistent with what
> I've been saying as long as you've been reporting these anomalies… 
> 
> "There's too much wrong here for anything to be right."
> 
> This was my favorite saying at KSC whenever I came upon a problem where all of the data collected
> about it appeared to indicate that too many things were failing, often inconsistently, however all of
> the normal 'self-tests' indicated that each element was functioning correctly…
> 
> Often this is because multiple problems have been mixed into a single 'problem report', and sometimes
> it was because the 'scope' of the research included one or more 'assumptions' …
> 
> It would be too much to describe here, but one problem occurred many years ago that was analogous
> to :   turning ON the cold faucet in the kitchen sink, and the lights going out in the barn… 
> 
> And of course, it turned out to be nothing more than two different unknown problems occurring at the
> same time, but because of the exact to the millisecond timing of the events, were 'associated' …
> 
> I do remember most of the problems you have had, and I think I remember mentioning the idea of bad
> connections in your sockets, and certainly you had been in your circuit box enough times ( with multiple
> technicians ?), to assume that those connections were secure.
> 
> What I did not consider was that the Power company's connections were the culprit.
> 
> What I suggest you do now, is to simply wait… 
> Having found that the root problem was so fundamental, you cannot trust ANY tests that you've done
> before the 'fix' … Nothing you think you know about the Leviton filter, nor even those RR501 wireless
> transceivers… your Weeder boards etc… Everything would be affected by the erratic source of power.
> 
> When I first read your power engineer's discovery, I was rolling on the floor…  I could just imagine
> how a garbage truck rumbling past that power stub would easily 'move' the problem … and the problems
> you thought you fixed the previous evening were now 'different'…
> 
> As for the Leviton filter, yes, it's possibly useful in areas where you have very close neighbors.
> Leave it in, or out (whatever current state), and wait...
> 
> I love this sort of thing… I even bought the URL :  www.TooMuchWrong.com  :)
> (nothing there yet … but plans for a blog/collection of wonderful 'problems'.)
> 
> michael
> 
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